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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

So, I think that when people’s lives and health are at stake, then engaging in a meme war and then going back to being friendly is privilege. The issue is whose lives are at stake—and here’s where the memes play a role. The Right thinks it’s their lives. As a Soviet Studies student in the 80s I see the memes as equivalent to Soviet propaganda posters. And frankly I think a lot of the rightwing ones come out of the former Soviet KGB agent’s disinformation factories. Even people who consider themselves leftists are sharing Putin-generated GOP talking points without realizing it. Which brings us back to the subject of debate—and lack of learning debating skills in high school. We were assigned topics and sides, and sometimes had to argue a side we didn’t agree with. It forced us to at least try to look for facts to support that point of view. “If my life and identity are based on White privilege then I felt existentially threatened by the Obama presidency and now the Harris campaign.” Now we know it’s a values issue and use facts to refute the underlying beliefs. The other positives about debate training is that it is, for the most part, structured to be rational. Certain techniques are not taught in debate class, however, bc they do not serve the discovery of facts. Check out a 9/10/24 article in Mother Jones (I put a screenshot on my IG scl3624) about the Gish Gallop technique. Its purpose is to short-circuit meaningful debate—and create distracting sound bites and memes instead. Confusion is the purpose. At the end of the article the interviewee recommends calling out the technique by name and explicitly refusing to engage—which Harris has been doing nicely.

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Naomi Smith's avatar

I enjoyed this thoughtful contemplation of memes and their effect on both sender and the person on whom they are inflicted.

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